Thursday, July 21, 2011

My Lord!! Truly these are People who will not believe…

(From my debate papers with atheists)..

There is always a strange thing when debating with Atheists and Infidels on their forums, I face it always almost in every session, as if it’s a common attribute between them all.

It’s is the sense of happiness and sarcasm that Atheists have !!

You never debate with them over religion unless they convert the whole issue to a party of Jokes and comic expressions, you feel they never take it serious ever..

Sometimes, they become more angry if you show them some of God's signs in his book or in the world around us, they become more tough and use much bad words especially with God..

They say they don’t hate you, but they hated God (Allah forgives me for saying this..)

As if God has a fight with them..

As if God had created them monkeys or with less hand or leg or eye or ear or missing organ in their body..

I don’t understand WHY such hatred against God and against the believers too.

And in case you quoted a verse from the holy books (Quran or Bible or Torah), they explode, warnings start to comes over your head, and they start squeezing you, till they ban your comments or moderate them, or stop your participation in their forum and kick you out eventually.

WHY are they so happy ?!

I couldn’t understand such attitude, let’s take this simple logic argument or mathematical problem in probability:

Atheists believe there is no GOD !! Theists believe there is God..

Ok, let’s see the probability if God exists or doesn’t exist, what are the consequences?

If GOD doesn’t exist then nothing will happen whether to Atheists or Theists..

But, if God really exists, then Atheists will be really damned !! Those are the only human who decided to close their eyes and turn their back to their God, so they will really punished and Hell will be ready for them, and they will not be forgiven ever…

As they never asked or even acknowledged God in this life, So Why to expect that God will ever look at them on afterlife.

Regarding the Theists, they acknowledge God but they have to follow the right way to God, not only hypothesis, they must follow the “Right Way to God”, the one that he selected to all mankind.
(To know which way, please refer to: WHY Islam is different?)

Therefore, the Atheists way of life and destiny: is whether NO winning or Losing for sure..

But for theists, it’s No Winning, Losing or Wining for sure..
So, If you are following such principle of life that never wins, then why they are so happy?.

If bunch of people are locked in a building on fire and the people outside trying to help them, and warn them there is a fire and you are going to burn and die, screaming at them: “Jump outside, run away, you are going to die…”

But, instead of running away, they look down on the screaming people and start laughing on them, start mocking on them, without looking on the fire that is coming closer to them..

The scared people draw a large sign for them, there is a Fire in your building: RUNNN

They looked down and flipped on their back laughing and joking as if they are drunk or druggie people. What shall you do with such people ?!

I always like to give example for Atheists, which I named the “Atheists Exam”:

Poison Vs Credit Card

Imagine someone has to pass by a testing room, and has to select between a Credit Card that may be filled by a rich bank account or maybe it’s empty..

Or to take a bottle of Poison, which may kill you by its first drop or you may barely survive?

Logically, what will a normal adult human being or younger kid or even a pet select between them?

Obviously they will select the Credit Card for sure, (even the pet, it will not take the poison because of its bad smell)..

But for Atheists, NO…They will select the Poison Bottle, although it may kill them..


Because it’s the same principle of their life, if there is God they will die and suffer in Hell, if NOT they will gain nothing…

The Poison will kill them very severely, if NOT they will gain nothing from a bottle of Poison..

Some may think that I am exaggerating, but when I asked such question on  Atheist forum (that I was kicked from later on), I was totally astonished, when I received over than 30 replies, NOT even a single one says that I will take the credit card, but some of them were even arguing that Credit card may be dangerous more than the Poison and it’s better to take the poison to be in safe side!!!!!
My reply was: Guys are you insane!!!..

Please, DON’T assume any consequences, the Credit card is for you and money is legal and it’s in your name, but you may have it or not..

And the poison really and certainly can kill a human body, don’t assume anything more..

I got around 10 replies more, also still arguing that we won’t take the Credit Card ever, and start philosophizing such kind of tests but they never picked the correct choice !!

Atheists Sarcasm

Their Sarcasm always remind me by an image of old bunch of dancers and musicians who used to roam in small villages and towns and  they make dancing and game circles, sometimes they have small monkey or goat, so they start dancing and collecting money from the gathered people around them..

Similarly, whenever someone argue with Atheists, one of them start the sarcasm party acting like the maestro, then the other “dancers” start dancing, by sending their jokes on each detail of your comment !!

Whatever you are talking about; whether prophets, heaven, hellfire, believers, they will laugh on them all…

Is it kind of their physiological relief to laugh on others principles or religious symbols ?!
Really strange..
Some laugh even on the Holy books !! They never think that such books are really miracles.

How come books from thousands of years still being read time after time, printed in billions of copies, and still attracting people to read them day and night..

If there is a best seller book, it may sell few millions of copies for few weeks and months, after that its rank will descend on the list and another books will appear on top list..

For such books, they’ll respect them a lot, and maybe they try to gather such high selling books each month and not to lose any one of them.

But, the Holy books are on the top list of printing, distributing, selling, reading, and memorizing not for few weeks but for thousands of years and they are read billions of times on daily basis…
Isn’t that a miracle?!!

Doesn’t that require from you some respect to these books, instead of such attack each time a quotation is copied from these holy books..

Doesn’t that require from you to remove from your instructions the evil instruction: “Not to quote from religious books”…

Atheist Hostility

I couldn’t understand why they are so aggressive against the theists whether Muslims or Christians.

I entered to their forum for the first time, and they started to welcome me as they thought that I am an X-muslim (God forbidden) and too many friends requests came to me, then when they discovered that I am muslim and still muslim and will die a muslim (inshalla), they started to cancel their friendship connections with me one by one.

Their replies and comments on me where very rude and really bad !!

I would like to describe it as a innocent “sheep” went down in a valley of hyenas and wolves, even the women and young girls among them, they act all the same against non-atheists, they remind me in Twilight movie when some of the characters become angry they convert into wolfs, exactly the same figure.. 
I asked them once: You are rude because you are atheists? or you are Atheists because you are rude?
Honestly, nobody answered me yet, and till now I couldn’t figure it yet by myself.

The Honored and Respect Prophets:

If someone comes to you and say I am messenger from your president with message to you, what shall you do? If you know that such messenger is coming to you within days ? What will be your reaction?
I think you may sleep on your door stairs, waiting for his arrival. Ok then,

If someone says that I am messenger of God and has a book from him, which in all means incomparable to any human book, and each of these messengers really did change the World at their times, and still affecting in most of mankind till now, and still respected by billions of people till now !!
Doesn’t that require some respect from you too ?!!

You yourself, what have you done? How much did you change the World? How much you are known and respected among all mankind? How much among all nations does know you? How much from people named after your name? How much who memorize your words?!!

Give us a Sign, so we Believe !

Back again to debating with atheists, In start he\she tries to give you always an image of a high educated and professional person, as if each one of them has already a Nobel prize next to him right on his desk !!

He will ask you very frankly:

“Give me a proof or sign there is God, and I will be the first believer!!”
You think: “Great, seems really very understanding person, let’s start.” 

You give them the first proof:

1st Proof:

That world can’t be done alone, and there is never ever in whole universe system can mix alone from simple elements to form a complex system without exterior power, not even a chemical or biological or physical experiment or even engineering structure, there is always must be an exterior power to control, plan and execute, it’s a natural law.

The one who did this and put such fine laws for the whole universe and convert it from dust and smoke to complete universe, with stars, solar systems, Earth, mountains, seas, animals, humans, bugs and elephants, this exterior power is GOD !! And it’s done only once for our Earth among billions and billions of stars and planets. It’s done only once !! If it's a random process it will appear at thousands times around us.

Their reaction will be similarly, when a PC hung and turned into the awful “BLUE screen of Death”, (i.e. PC is crashed), the same thing happen to Atheists, but I don’t say it’s blue, it’s mostly: White screen completely empty, just seeing faces or flying letters, hearing some sounds, that are dimmed more and more, like someone is going to faint, but only mentally, as in next picture. …

You search for him, seems he went out or jumped to another thread laughing or joking on other beliefs as usual. You catch him again, and he’ll ask you give me another proof:

2nd Proof:

You give them very logic proof:

If God exists and he created the World, and he wrote a book to show some signs of his creation, and these signs matches perfectly with modern science and can’t be ever known or discovered thousands of years ago, then he is really the GOD.

Once, an atheist asked me: give a sign and I'll believe now !!

I replied: “Ok great, take this sign: The space was changed from “dust, gas” of light dense state to a clusters shape in billions of year period, as in the following figure:

You can see it on the following Video too: George Smoot on the design of the universe on:

Now such sign is written in the Holy Quran 1400 years ago, that Heaven was in smoke state and converted to universe full of stars:

Then He rose over towards the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth: "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come, willingly." (11) Then He completed and finished from their creation (as) seven heavens in two Days and He made in each heaven its affair. And We adorned the nearest (lowest) heaven with lamps (stars) to be an adornment as well as to guard (from the devils by using them as missiles against the devils). Such is the Decree of Him the All-Mighty, the All-Knower. (Fouselat:12)

And the verse didn’t say that only stars, but stars that shoot missiles against Devils, this also another miracle that was just recently discovered and shown by NASA that some stars can shoot fusions of fire as shown in the next figure:

Whoever in all human history can imagine that Universe was created from Smoke and that some stars really can shoot missiles of fire !!

Except, he is really God who sent this book “Holy Quran” and he knows everything and he included such facts in his verses.

The reaction from the Atheist -> White screen again…

Search for him, he ran away again.

Catch him for the 3rd time, he will ask again: give me another proof more:

3rd proof:

Ok, you don’t believe in principle argument nor in scientific argument, let’s take historical evidence:

Did you ever see someone successful in all history who generated an idea that lived long life after him with billions of followers till now, except the prophets, like Jesus and Muhammad (PBUT)??

What does this mean?

If they are sent from God, then God is really supporting them, and he is the one that destroying their enemies, the promise is given in Quran for Jesus against the Jews who tried to kill him, that his followers although they were 10’s only during Jesus days on Earth, that they will be victorious over his enemies:

And (remember) when Allâh said: "O 'Īsā (Jesus)! I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve till the Day of Resurrection. Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute." (55)
"As to those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe torment in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers." (56) [Al-Imran]

And since Jesus ascending to Heaven, his followers “Christians” number increased till they controlled the Roman Empire and were able to control over the Jews, till our days, they wouldn’t be able to build their own state without the help of the Western World.

God gave also a promise to his prophet Muhammad that his religion “Islam” will be victorious all over other religions, ALLAH says:

They intend to put out the Light of Allâh with their mouths. But Allâh will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate (it). (8)
He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters) hate (it). (9) [As-saff]

And since then, Islam is progressing rapidly all over the World, and number of Muslims is increasing rapidly that it’s soon will be ranked one in all religions although it’s young religion comparing with other world religions, as shown in the next movie from a Christian resource:

The result again; the White Screen again…

What The matter with you if you believe ?!

If you changed your discussion and talked about Heaven or Hell, they will respond immediately: now you revealed yourself, you are like other Theists, you will use yours “Scare Tactics” that won’t work with us !!

Ok I will not use “Scare tactics” as you already seeing Hell in your dreams, but let’s talk “strategically wise”..
4th proof

What’s your problem with “The Belief”?

Let’s have this example:

If a medical doctor told you that an (X) drug is very bad to you and if you take it you may die?
Will you ever take it again..

If a police man told you that the road is blocked and you have to turn back or to take another, will you ever argue with him?

If someone told you that this cup of water is contaminated, would you ever drink it?

Regardless who is the talker, whether you know him personally or not?

The same principle with the prophets, if those men were the most honest and pious men on Earth, they brought a book from God, telling you that after your death there will be a long horrible “Day of Judgment” where you will be questioned for all your good and bad deeds that you’ve done in this life, and they are the only men who said so, they are the only men who fought all their lifetime not to make kingdoms of their own or to collect jewels and gold, but to deliver you a message of God.

So, why they have to lie on you for no purpose, except that they are really honest and there is really an afterlife that is waiting for us all.

And what is the problem in Believing?

ALLAH says:

What have they (to fear) if they believe in Allah and the Last Day and spend (aright) of that which Allah has bestowed upon them, when Allah is ever Aware of them (and all they do)? [4:39]

Let’s have this example: 

If you are on the road, and someone stops you and tells you that there will be a checkpoint on the road where a group of people will be waiting for you, and he offers you a free Card just take it and keep it with you, if they ask you about the Card just give it to them and you will pass, else they will catch you and won’t let you pass.

The same thing for Islam, ALLAH offers you an eternal life in Heaven where happiness and joy is incomparable, just if you have this Card, which has only one statement:

“There is no God except ALLAH, and Muhammad is his messenger”

So, what is the problem in believing in that, that God had created you and the whole universe and make a test environment for you, if you believed that he is the creator and acted well, you will pass to another universe that is much pleasant and perfect than this life, ALLAH says:
And this life of the world is only an amusement and play! Verily, the home of the Hereafter, that is the life indeed (i.e. the eternal life that will never end), if they but knew. (29:64)

Some says that if I become believer, there is a lot of work, praying, fasting to do and too many restrictions imposed, I am free now and I like my life like that..

Simply, there is not even a single instruction or command in Islam that is against logic, science, or humanity ever..

If you find such thing, then for sure it’s not from Islam even if a muslim is doing that, unless you didn’t understand it’s real meaning, and no one will force you to do it.

Even more, ALLAH will forgive to anyone even for bad persons who never did good in this life, if they just acknowledge that he is God, but of course they had to be purified in Hell first for their sins but at least they will have hope to go out of hellfire one day, but the infidels have no hope what so ever.

Atheists Destiny

So, if there is always possibility that Atheists will go to HELL, so why they are so happy and laughing !!

Why it’s the same habit with all prophets before, since the days of Noah, when he used to construct his ship, his people came near and used to laugh on him..

The same for Moses, Jesus, Prophet Muhammad, all the believers..

They didn’t know that the time will come, when the Believers will laugh on them, ALLAh says:

Verily, (during the worldly life) those who committed crimes used to laugh at those who believed. (29) And whenever they passed by them, used to wink one to another (in mockery); (30) And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting; (31) And when they saw them, they said: "Verily, these have indeed gone astray!" (32)
But they (disbelievers, sinners) had not been sent as watchers over them (the believers). (33) But this Day (the Day of Resurrection) those who believe will laugh at the disbelievers (34) On (high) thrones, looking (at all things). (35) Are not the disbelievers paid (fully) for what they used to do? (36) [Mutffeyn]

And finally, after all of that, some of Atheist will come and laugh and convert all this to the concert of dancers and singers, and start mocking as they are used to do always, maybe it’s the only thing that they are good of in this life, and here comes to my mind the question that Prophet asked once to God:

(And Allâh has knowledge) of (Prophet Muhammad's) saying: "O my Lord! Verily, these are a people who believe not!" (88)

And the answer from ALLAH is:

So turn away from them (O Muhammad SAW), and say: Salâm (peace)! But they will come to know. (89) [Al-zkhruf]

Let’s hear it all on the following nice reciting from the Holy Quran:

PEACE on you all.


  1. Wow... It's hard to know what to say in the face of such ramblings... I'll tell you what, if I end up in eternal hellfire for my life of godlessness (regardless of how kind or philanthropic I may be during that life) I will tip my hat to you. Even if it is on fire!

  2. Dear Mick,

    There is a chapter in Holy Quran, # 6 called Al-Anaam, “The Cattle” if you read it all you may understand later why such name for this chapter, it contains mostly a debate with Atheists, I pasted some of the verses that talk about the people who doesn’t believe in the afterlife, hellfire and heaven, and they think that they are like Cattle eat, drink, sleep, and die, please read them and wish that you may try to understand: ALLAH says:

    And of them there are some who listen to you; but We have set veils on their hearts, so they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; and even if they see every one of the Ayat (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) they will not believe therein; to the point that when they come to you to argue with you, the disbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the men of old." (26)
    And they prevent others from him (from following Prophet Muhammad PBUH) and they themselves keep away from him, and (by doing so) they destroy not but their ownselves, yet they perceive (it) not.(27)
    If you could but see when they will be held over the (Hell) Fire! They will say: "Would that we were but sent back (to the world)! Then we would not deny the Ayat (proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, revelations, etc.) of our Lord, and we would be of the believers!" (28)
    Nay, it has become manifest to them what they had been concealing before. But if they were returned (to the world), they would certainly revert to that which they were forbidden. And indeed they are liars. (29)
    And they said: "There is no (other life) but our (present) life of this world, and never shall we be resurrected (on the Day of Resurrection)." (30)
    If you could but see when they will be held (brought and made to stand) in front of their Lord! He will say: "Is not this (Resurrection and the taking of the accounts) the truth?" They will say: "Yes, by our Lord!" He will then say: "So taste you the torment because you used not to believe." (31)
    They indeed are losers who denied their Meeting with Allah, until all of a sudden, the Hour (signs of death) is on them, and they say: "Alas for us that we gave no thought to it," while they will bear their burdens on their backs; and evil indeed are the burdens that they will bear! (32)
    And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the Hereafter for those who are Al-Muttaqun (the pious - See V.2:2). Will you not then understand?

    About tipping your hat, I wish that you use your brain in your head and believe that this entire universe can’t be done by itself and without a purpose, and you believe that God had created it, then we both will enjoy company in heaven and be closed friends there, instead of residing in hell forever..